Redemption Behind Bars: Andrew Murphy on Prison Education that Heals
What if prison wasn’t the end of someone's story, but the beginning of a powerful transformation?
In this soul-stirring episode, Dr. Payal Beri sits down with Andrew Murphy, Executive Director of the Wisconsin Inmate Education Association (WIEA), to discuss how higher education, empathy, and human dignity are reshaping the lives of incarcerated individuals, many of whom were once seen as beyond redemption.
Through personal stories, lived experiences, and hard truths, Andrew shares how WIEA’s groundbreaking college-in-prison program is restoring hope, reducing prison violence, and helping incarcerated men become change agents in their communities, even from behind bars. Together, Payal and Andrew explore the deep stigmas society places on the incarcerated and why we must rethink justice, humanity, and redemption.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why transformation behind bars is not only possible - but essential
How education and faith-based identity formation impact recidivism and violence
The myth of "once a criminal, always a criminal" and how that mindset fails communities
Real-life stories of rival gang members finding unity, fathers inspiring their grandsons, and men rewriting their legacies
What families of the incarcerated learn when someone they love transforms inside
Why supporting prison education helps break intergenerational cycles of crime
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In This Episode:
00:00 Introduction and Excitement
01:31 The Moment of Conviction
03:20 Realizations and Transformations
07:15 Debunking Myths About Incarceration
10:25 The Power of Education in Prison
15:25 Stories of Transformation
23:36 Addressing Criticisms and Redemption
25:27 The Impact of the Death Penalty on Victims' Families
26:52 Redemption and Dignity for Incarcerated Individuals
28:02 Inspiring Stories of Transformation
29:18 The Ripple Effect of Education in Prison
30:42 The Power of Truth and Accountability
32:49 Life After Release: Transformations and Challenges
35:35 The Role of Faith and Education in Rehabilitation
38:51 Addressing Systemic Issues and Changing Perspectives
45:21 The Importance of Compassion and Support
48:23 Reframing Perspectives on Incarceration and Redemption
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